Skip to main content

Response to a Comment

I recently got a comment to my blog post on the seer stone. I did not intend on spending as much time as I did responding to it. But after I did return their comment, I figured I mine as well share it in a post. I think this comment is very typical of some (not all) Mormons. My response is I think how most or many former Mormons feel. I just copied and pasted the section below:

"Urim & Thummim or Magic Stone? How Smith claimed to translate the Book of Mormon"

2 Comments - Show Original PostCollapse comments

1 – 2 of 2
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I don't know if you've ever read the Book of Mormon with a pure heart and an open mind, but I know that if you do you will feel the power of God emanating from it. I am saddened to think that the logistics of translation have blinded you from the feelings the Book of Mormon can stir in the heart of the honest truth seeker. Let's not try to think about the Book of Mormon merely in a logical sense, for man cannot comprehend all things that the Lord can comprehend.
9:33 AM
Blogger William Kempton said...
Dear Anonymous,

I did read the Book of Mormon with a pure heart and an open mind, if you are pure in heart and have an open mind please read my story here:

I know you "feel" that way, but I know from my own experience reading the Book of Mormon and praying about it, more than once, that I felt nothing even close to what you have described as "power of God emanating from it." Did I feel good sometimes reading it, yes; but I also at times felt bored, and other non-lofty emotions. Reading the Book of Mormon was no different than reading any other kind of "spiritual" text I have read over the years. And quite frankly, I have been moved more emotionally by other books, like one I recently read on Mindfulness called Wherever You Go There You Are, etc. Besides, even if I did have the feelings you speak of would that prove Utah Mormonism is true (assuming you are a Utah Mormon)? There are others who pray about the Book of Mormon and declare Brigham Young a false prophet? How are you so certain that their claim to revelation is inferior to yours? How can you disprove their claim to personal revelation?

I am sad to think that you think that the mere logistics of TRANSLATION have somehow "blinded" me from these feelings you speak of. Do you see your psychology here, I am not allowed a different opinion, because as you put it I can only feel its true if I am an "honest truth seeker." Can you see that you invalidating my own personal experience is not very Christlike and is an ad hominem attack? Can you see that implying I am not a truth seeker and you are sad for me is also condescending? They say in LDS culture, every member a missionary, is that how you engage in missionary work? You then said, "Let's not try to think about the Book of Mormon merely in a logical sense ..." So I should shut off my brain's intellectual faculties? I end with a quote by Galileo:

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them."


Popular posts from this blog

The Mormon Shame and Tame Cycle

Disclaimer: In this post I am not saying that feeling healthy guilt is wrong. In fact healthy guilt is sometimes important toward facilitating personal growth and ethical change. In this post I am critiquing Mormonism's methods of extreme demands on the membership to live up to the Mormon ideals, followed by unhealthy shaming techniques and the implementation of emotional manipulation. For my readers who are Christian, nothing I write herein goes against basic Christian doctrines of healthy guilt and confession to God and forgiveness by grace. I am specifically critiquing the Mormon Corporation and its methods of mind controlling it’s members through several methods, including making impossible demands on fallible humans; like the rule that you can't drink coffee, or that women shouldn't have more than one pair of earrings; and how LDS members who have been through the temple are required to wear secret Mormon underwear day and night to be deemed “worthy” of entering the t…

A Short List of Harm Caused by Mormonism

This blog post should be read in conjunction with my blog post here and my essay titled The Positive Side of Mormonism, where I mention all of the good in the Mormon Church. In this post I will point out several reasons why I think Mormonism can often be harmful. I need to be clear though that I separate the individual Mormon from the LDS Institution. When I speak of Mormonism being harmful I am not talking about average Mormons themselves as individuals. In fact, after reading the essay linked above it will become clear to the reader that I am aware of not just the goodness in the LDS church, but that there are many ethical Mormons of high character doing good in the world. 
I believe most Mormons are not themselves harmful but are unknowing victims of MormonISM. So to be clear, this list is not an attack in any way on individual Mormons but is a list of the harm caused by the LDS Corporation.
My intent is to both explain why, I personally am not a Cultural Mormon (New Order Mormon…

Did Joseph Smith have Narcissistic Personality Disorder?

Disclaimer: Joseph Smith is many things to many people. For some in the restoration movement, who believe in the Book of Mormon but reject the leadership of Brigham Young, Smith was inspired but a “fallen” prophet. To Utah Mormons, Smith was a noble man worthy of constant praise and adoration. When I was a missionary there was one family who had a huge mural of Joseph Smith in their living room, with a smaller painting of Jesus consigned to the kitchen area. Growing up Mormon I only heard of Smith’s strengths and talents, never his flaws and foibles. My analysis below is no doubt an incomplete portrait of Joseph Smith, for I am focusing on one aspect of his character; but my focus balances out the white washed squeaky clean image of Smith produced by the LDS church. We are all multifaceted individuals and full of complexity and profound mystery. Nevertheless, this is an attempt to uncover at least one aspect of Smith’s personality and how it likely influenced his new religion of Mormo…