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Is the rock in the hat act a trivial matter?

I would agree with some LDS apologists that the rock in the hat act is not, in and of itself, a major problem for Mormonism. The most important thing is educating the LDS members and investigators about it, which I believe most ethical LDS apologists would agree with me on.

The seer stone was never one of those things where when I first heard about it I went, “Ah hah, the church isn’t what it claims to be because Smith put a rock in a hat.” Because I was aware that the act by itself is only a problem if you’re going to humbly ask, “how can you see words appear on or through a stone by staring at it, i.e. what are the mechanics behind such a claim?” I know that many people are not concerned with such questions. So if you are not the type of Mormon to ask how a claim of scrying via a peep stone can occur in the natural world, and are more than ready to throw out the LDS words “God,” “miraculous,” “spirit,” “Ghost,” etc., as if these words explain anything, then it won’t be an issue to …

My Response to Daniel Peterson on the Seer Stone

Note: This post is meant to be read in conjunction with my post titled Urim & Thummim or Magic Stone? How Smith claimed to produce the Book of Mormon.

In 2006, on a mormonstories.org message board, Daniel Peterson accused LDS members (who become exmormons), who didn’t know about Smith’s use of a Seer Stone while translating the Book of Mormon as being slothful and ignorant. My response was as follows (with a few updated changes to my original post):

I’ve read through all the comments on this post and wish to put in my two cents. Here is what I will not be saying:

• I will not be arguing that the church deletes all the information about the seer stone in some of its literature; but they do omit details in offical publications and instead portray Smith actually translating from the plates, which is inaccurate to say the least.
• I won’t be ignoring the fact that Latter-day Saints can and do have access to many controversial church subjects by simply reading articles from the Maxwell In…